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#1 07/25/2010 5:34 pm

tim1505
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Registered: 12/31/1969
Posts: 37

Are Squidoo Lenses Being Penalized By Google?

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#2 07/25/2010 5:52 pm

Christene
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From: MA
Registered: 02/06/2007
Posts: 4840

Re: Are Squidoo Lenses Being Penalized By Google?

I'm actually seeing more Google love now than I had been for months.

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#3 07/25/2010 6:03 pm

tim1505
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Re: Are Squidoo Lenses Being Penalized By Google?

I guess i'll just wait and see how mine goes then

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#4 07/26/2010 1:38 am

theraggededge
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From: Wales, UK
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Posts: 1501

Re: Are Squidoo Lenses Being Penalized By Google?

Tim... Google is not going to show you much love - not with that bunch of identical spammy lenses. You'd be better off deleting them and making one or two QUALITY lenses on your topic.

Google only picks up two lenses with the same keyword. Go check it out. Do a search on cupcakes or wind energy - I bet only one or two Squidoo pages will show up on the first pages of Google.

Bev

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#5 07/26/2010 1:45 am

thefluffanutta
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From: York, England SquidUtils.com
Registered: 09/04/2006
Posts: 7552

Re: Are Squidoo Lenses Being Penalized By Google?

tim1505 wrote:

Am I wrong in thinking that squidoo lenses should be ranked higher due to the amount of authority on the homepage?

Yes.

PageRank (and SEOmoz) aren't the only factors that Google uses to rank pages - there are over 200 other factors that are also used.

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#6 07/26/2010 1:48 am

thefluffanutta
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From: York, England SquidUtils.com
Registered: 09/04/2006
Posts: 7552

Re: Are Squidoo Lenses Being Penalized By Google?

theraggededge wrote:

Google only picks up two lenses with the same keyword. Go check it out. Do a search on cupcakes or wind energy - I bet only one or two Squidoo pages will show up on the first pages of Google.

Bev - just to be pedantic: Google picks up all lenses, but only shows the top two for any single query. Slightly different queries may show a different pair of lenses at the top, depending on the ranking factors involved.

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#7 07/26/2010 1:56 am

theraggededge
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From: Wales, UK
Registered: 12/31/1969
Posts: 1501

Re: Are Squidoo Lenses Being Penalized By Google?

Oh.. yes, sorry, that's what I meant.

In this case, the OP has about 16 lenses, all with tiny variations in the URL, all with the same intro with the same words in a different order, all linking to exactly the same lenses. So unlikely to benefit from the keyword variation, yes? No?

They are still WIPs.

Bev

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#8 07/26/2010 8:03 am

The_Health_Lady
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Re: Are Squidoo Lenses Being Penalized By Google?

What I think is very weird is that AltaVista hits has had a huge increase lately. I thought that AltaVista was gone.

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#9 07/26/2010 9:28 am

theraggededge
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From: Wales, UK
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Re: Are Squidoo Lenses Being Penalized By Google?

The_Health_Lady wrote:

What I think is very weird is that AltaVista hits has had a huge increase lately. I thought that AltaVista was gone.

Wow... there's a blast from the past - I used AltaVista all the time.

Bev

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#10 07/26/2010 12:08 pm

tim1505
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Re: Are Squidoo Lenses Being Penalized By Google?

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#11 07/26/2010 1:17 pm

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Re: Are Squidoo Lenses Being Penalized By Google?

Lenses as a breed are not penalized by Google, but individual lenses still can be based on the quality of the lens content and many other factors.


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#12 07/26/2010 4:02 pm

Gordon_Hamilton
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From: Back in Scotland for now...
Registered: 08/09/2007
Posts: 445

Re: Are Squidoo Lenses Being Penalized By Google?

I'd like to throw a couple of points in to the melting pot here: smile

Firstly, early in 2008, I was recommended by a friend (an offline one - nothing to do with Squidoo, or any other site) that I submit a lens I had which was doing very well in Google and getting a lot of hits from same to one of these "Auto-linking/promoting," whatever sites that we all see around the Web. It was only earlier this year that particular lens next got a hit from Google search engine and although it now gets a few, not a fraction of its former level. Painful lesson learned.

Secondly, I happened to check the Google PR of a non-Squidoo site I have just a couple of weeks ago. The last time I checked - a few months back - it had a PR of 4. Now? Zero! Yet it still shows on the front page of Google search results.

It is my honest and sincere belief that if one focuses above all on producing quality content, linking effectively and totally legitimately and giving the reading and browsing public what they want, the desired results will come themselves - as a very welcome by-product - and that merely chasing same serves as being wholly counter-productive.

That has been my experience, at least...

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#13 07/27/2010 1:15 pm

Kate-Phizackerley
Wow. Over 1000 posts.
From: London
Registered: 12/31/1969
Posts: 1741

Re: Are Squidoo Lenses Being Penalized By Google?

If Google is starved of material on a keyword, lenses can go to the top very quickly. 

For other lenses, it can be a long slow haul.  It's taken 8 months for my [url=http://www.squidoo.com/douglas-fairbanks'Douglas Fairbanks Sr[/url]lens to make to the front page of Google - although bizarrely traffic is now lower than when it was on page 3!  I've got a new series of bread lenses and Google is largely ignoring them en masse. 

What I have learned is that high quality lenses have a habbit of winning out in Google in the long term but in the short term quality isn't a major factor.

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#14 07/27/2010 2:48 pm

Greekgeek
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From: Orange County, CA
Registered: 05/04/2007
Posts: 3838

Re: Are Squidoo Lenses Being Penalized By Google?

I try not to pay much attention to Pagerank, since we really have no way of knowing how much Google factors it in or how Google calculates it. The pagerank toolbars floating around out there are guessing-- they don't have Google's proprietary algorithm, so they can't be sure. But yeah, I've got a bunch of lenses that are page rank 5.

Most are also within the top 1-5 results on Google for their keyword.

Google doesn't penalize Squidoo, it's just that the web has matured, and there's a heck of a lot of competition no matter where you publish a webpage. As usual, trying to get your needle to show up in a whole haystack of needles is a challenge. It has to be a very shiny needle. smile

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#15 07/28/2010 9:10 am

WickedlyWired
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Registered: 12/31/1969
Posts: 117

Re: Are Squidoo Lenses Being Penalized By Google?

interesting read. lots to learn. oye!

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