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Last edited by tim1505 (07/29/2010 5:53 pm)
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I'm actually seeing more Google love now than I had been for months.
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I guess i'll just wait and see how mine goes then
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Tim... Google is not going to show you much love - not with that bunch of identical spammy lenses. You'd be better off deleting them and making one or two QUALITY lenses on your topic.
Google only picks up two lenses with the same keyword. Go check it out. Do a search on cupcakes or wind energy - I bet only one or two Squidoo pages will show up on the first pages of Google.
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tim1505 wrote:
Am I wrong in thinking that squidoo lenses should be ranked higher due to the amount of authority on the homepage?
Yes.
PageRank (and SEOmoz) aren't the only factors that Google uses to rank pages - there are over 200 other factors that are also used.
Last edited by thefluffanutta (07/26/2010 1:46 am)
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theraggededge wrote:
Google only picks up two lenses with the same keyword. Go check it out. Do a search on cupcakes or wind energy - I bet only one or two Squidoo pages will show up on the first pages of Google.
Bev - just to be pedantic: Google picks up all lenses, but only shows the top two for any single query. Slightly different queries may show a different pair of lenses at the top, depending on the ranking factors involved.
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Oh.. yes, sorry, that's what I meant.
In this case, the OP has about 16 lenses, all with tiny variations in the URL, all with the same intro with the same words in a different order, all linking to exactly the same lenses. So unlikely to benefit from the keyword variation, yes? No?
They are still WIPs.
Bev
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What I think is very weird is that AltaVista hits has had a huge increase lately. I thought that AltaVista was gone.
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The_Health_Lady wrote:
What I think is very weird is that AltaVista hits has had a huge increase lately. I thought that AltaVista was gone.
Wow... there's a blast from the past - I used AltaVista all the time.
Bev
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Last edited by tim1505 (07/29/2010 5:53 pm)
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Lenses as a breed are not penalized by Google, but individual lenses still can be based on the quality of the lens content and many other factors.
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I'd like to throw a couple of points in to the melting pot here: ![]()
Firstly, early in 2008, I was recommended by a friend (an offline one - nothing to do with Squidoo, or any other site) that I submit a lens I had which was doing very well in Google and getting a lot of hits from same to one of these "Auto-linking/promoting," whatever sites that we all see around the Web. It was only earlier this year that particular lens next got a hit from Google search engine and although it now gets a few, not a fraction of its former level. Painful lesson learned.
Secondly, I happened to check the Google PR of a non-Squidoo site I have just a couple of weeks ago. The last time I checked - a few months back - it had a PR of 4. Now? Zero! Yet it still shows on the front page of Google search results.
It is my honest and sincere belief that if one focuses above all on producing quality content, linking effectively and totally legitimately and giving the reading and browsing public what they want, the desired results will come themselves - as a very welcome by-product - and that merely chasing same serves as being wholly counter-productive.
That has been my experience, at least...
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If Google is starved of material on a keyword, lenses can go to the top very quickly.
For other lenses, it can be a long slow haul. It's taken 8 months for my [url=http://www.squidoo.com/douglas-fairbanks'Douglas Fairbanks Sr[/url]lens to make to the front page of Google - although bizarrely traffic is now lower than when it was on page 3! I've got a new series of bread lenses and Google is largely ignoring them en masse.
What I have learned is that high quality lenses have a habbit of winning out in Google in the long term but in the short term quality isn't a major factor.
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I try not to pay much attention to Pagerank, since we really have no way of knowing how much Google factors it in or how Google calculates it. The pagerank toolbars floating around out there are guessing-- they don't have Google's proprietary algorithm, so they can't be sure. But yeah, I've got a bunch of lenses that are page rank 5.
Most are also within the top 1-5 results on Google for their keyword.
Google doesn't penalize Squidoo, it's just that the web has matured, and there's a heck of a lot of competition no matter where you publish a webpage. As usual, trying to get your needle to show up in a whole haystack of needles is a challenge. It has to be a very shiny needle. ![]()
Last edited by Greekgeek (07/27/2010 2:49 pm)
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interesting read. lots to learn. oye!
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