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#1 05/11/2010 9:39 am

giltotherescue
Squid Staff / Forum Mod
From: Boulder
Registered: 10/17/2005
Posts: 2192

SEO changes to how links are tagged "nofollow" in modules

First, for those not familiar with the nofollow concept, here's an unofficial lens to get you up to speed.

We have made some changes to the way links within modules are tagged as nofollow. With this change we're putting more trust and responsibility in the hands of lensmasters. There are a number of modules where followed links are now possible for the first time ever. Conversely, we're taking a tougher stance on commenting modules set to auto-approve, because they leave lenses wide open to spammers if the lensmaster is not moderating regularly.

From now on, the only modules that will automatically tag links nofollow are:

1) Affiliate modules such as Amazon, eBay, CafePress, Zazzle (all affiliate links should be nofollow to avoid paid link confusion)

2) Commenting modules such as Duel, Guestbook, and Plexo Linklist (only if comments are set to auto approve)

3) Feed modules such as RSS, RSS Mashup, and Google Blog Search

In addition, lenses in Work In Progress status are nofollowed due to the higher chance the page is junk and/or spam.

It could take up to a month for this change to fully propagate, due to our aggressive module caching system.

Questions? Comments? We're listening.

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#2 05/11/2010 9:47 am

jeffwend
Lens Promotion Mentor
From: West Michigan
Registered: 01/06/2007
Posts: 1110

Re: SEO changes to how links are tagged "nofollow" in modules

Are there any links that  are now do-follow that were nofollow in the past?

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#3 05/11/2010 9:54 am

giltotherescue
Squid Staff / Forum Mod
From: Boulder
Registered: 10/17/2005
Posts: 2192

Re: SEO changes to how links are tagged "nofollow" in modules

jeffwend wrote:

Are there any links that  are now do-follow that were nofollow in the past?

giltotherescue wrote:

There are a number of modules where followed links are now possible for the first time ever

Sorry, I don't have a full list.

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#4 05/11/2010 9:59 am

xtnshun
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From: Reston, VA
Registered: 05/23/2007
Posts: 632

Re: SEO changes to how links are tagged "nofollow" in modules

Would a link in the description of an RSS module (for instance) be nofollow?

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#5 05/11/2010 10:04 am

giltotherescue
Squid Staff / Forum Mod
From: Boulder
Registered: 10/17/2005
Posts: 2192

Re: SEO changes to how links are tagged "nofollow" in modules

xtnshun wrote:

Would a link in the description of an RSS module (for instance) be nofollow?

Yes

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#6 05/11/2010 10:23 am

Greekgeek
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From: Orange County, CA
Registered: 05/04/2007
Posts: 3846

Re: SEO changes to how links are tagged "nofollow" in modules

Ooh, thanks for the announcement!

I have an out of date Module Index which shows what used to be nofollow. I'll have to update it. I'll wait a month for everything to propagate, then run through them again. (And add Page Break module... hopefully I haven't missed any others!)

EDIT: I think this sounds great as-is Gil, but glancing at the Requested Features forum, an idea occurred to me.

What if, for the visitor-input modules, there was a "Moderate links" setting? That is, the module would auto-approve text comments, but any submissions with links are held for moderation?

But I really like what you've done to have links in auto-approve modules be nofollow. That makes SO much sense.

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#7 05/11/2010 10:48 am

Chadrew
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From: Lithuania
Registered: 03/11/2007
Posts: 1490

Re: SEO changes to how links are tagged "nofollow" in modules

Sounds good. Is there any reason why "Text with BIG picture" module would make all links nofollow though?

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#8 05/11/2010 11:05 am

giltotherescue
Squid Staff / Forum Mod
From: Boulder
Registered: 10/17/2005
Posts: 2192

Re: SEO changes to how links are tagged "nofollow" in modules

Greekgeek wrote:

What if, for the visitor-input modules, there was a "Moderate links" setting? That is, the module would auto-approve text comments, but any submissions with links are held for moderation?

It's an interesting idea, but I think the number of options we offer now is already a bit overwhelming.

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#9 05/11/2010 11:06 am

giltotherescue
Squid Staff / Forum Mod
From: Boulder
Registered: 10/17/2005
Posts: 2192

Re: SEO changes to how links are tagged "nofollow" in modules

Chadrew wrote:

Sounds good. Is there any reason why "Text with BIG picture" module would make all links nofollow though?

This module should no longer be nofollow. If you add a new one or edit/resave an existing one you should see that it is no longer nofollow.

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#10 05/11/2010 12:26 pm

JaguarJulie
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From: Jacksonville, FL
Registered: 03/21/2006
Posts: 3745

Re: SEO changes to how links are tagged "nofollow" in modules

Say Gil, my eyes are a little tired, so pardon me if this has been answered already.

Will the "My Lenses" module lose the "nofollow" ?

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#11 05/11/2010 1:16 pm

giltotherescue
Squid Staff / Forum Mod
From: Boulder
Registered: 10/17/2005
Posts: 2192

Re: SEO changes to how links are tagged "nofollow" in modules

JaguarJulie wrote:

Say Gil, my eyes are a little tired, so pardon me if this has been answered already.

Will the "My Lenses" module lose the "nofollow" ?

Yes

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#12 05/11/2010 1:24 pm

Kharadriisa
Full fledged kraken (500+ posts)
Registered: 12/31/1969
Posts: 749

Re: SEO changes to how links are tagged "nofollow" in modules

giltotherescue wrote:

JaguarJulie wrote:

Say Gil, my eyes are a little tired, so pardon me if this has been answered already.

Will the "My Lenses" module lose the "nofollow" ?

Yes

Thanks smile  Didn't realize they were nofollow, but glad that they aren't.  Will make it more exciting to add them to my lenses!

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#13 05/11/2010 1:35 pm

JaguarJulie
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From: Jacksonville, FL
Registered: 03/21/2006
Posts: 3745

Re: SEO changes to how links are tagged "nofollow" in modules

giltotherescue wrote:

JaguarJulie wrote:

Say Gil, my eyes are a little tired, so pardon me if this has been answered already.

Will the "My Lenses" module lose the "nofollow" ?

Yes

Yes???  http://www.jaguarjulie.com/images/kissesxo.gif

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#14 05/11/2010 11:08 pm

spirituality
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From: Netherlands
Registered: 12/31/1969
Posts: 2813

Re: SEO changes to how links are tagged "nofollow" in modules

giltotherescue wrote:

First, for those not familiar with the nofollow concept, here's an unofficial lens to get you up to speed.

We have made some changes to the way links within modules are tagged as nofollow. With this change we're putting more trust and responsibility in the hands of lensmasters. There are a number of modules where followed links are now possible for the first time ever. Conversely, we're taking a tougher stance on commenting modules set to auto-approve, because they leave lenses wide open to spammers if the lensmaster is not moderating regularly.

From now on, the only modules that will automatically tag links nofollow are:

1) Affiliate modules such as Amazon, eBay, CafePress, Zazzle (all affiliate links should be nofollow to avoid paid link confusion)

2) Commenting modules such as Duel, Guestbook, and Plexo Linklist (only if comments are set to auto approve)

3) Feed modules such as RSS, RSS Mashup, and Google Blog Search

In addition, lenses in Work In Progress status are nofollowed due to the higher chance the page is junk and/or spam.

It could take up to a month for this change to fully propagate, due to our aggressive module caching system.

Questions? Comments? We're listening.

Yeah smile Thanks.

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#15 05/11/2010 11:57 pm

Greekgeek
Indubitably tentacular
From: Orange County, CA
Registered: 05/04/2007
Posts: 3846

Re: SEO changes to how links are tagged "nofollow" in modules

giltotherescue wrote:

Greekgeek wrote:

What if, for the visitor-input modules, there was a "Moderate links" setting? That is, the module would auto-approve text comments, but any submissions with links are held for moderation?

It's an interesting idea, but I think the number of options we offer now is already a bit overwhelming.

True.
And the more code on the workshop/lens, the more laggy.

This is good. Very very sensible which modules are NoFollow!

Thank you!

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#16 05/12/2010 5:10 am

aj2008
Indubitably tentacular
From: England
Registered: 12/31/1969
Posts: 3913

Re: SEO changes to how links are tagged "nofollow" in modules

I am only just getting to grips with "nofollow" and "dofollow" but if experts like Katinka and GreekGeek are saying this is all good stuff then it's fine by me lol

Seriously though, thanks Gil this is good news smile


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#17 05/12/2010 5:21 am

Loyalis
Captain Squid
From: Singapore
Registered: 12/31/1969
Posts: 1088

Re: SEO changes to how links are tagged "nofollow" in modules

Question:

1) Does the description area of the affiliate modules (amazon, ebay, etc.) have the nofollow removed? Not the actual products, just the description area. Does this mean all 'description' areas in modules that auto-generate no-follow links will now be do-follow? Cause that would be good.

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#18 05/12/2010 5:28 am

thefluffanutta
Citizen Squid Alumni

From: York, England SquidUtils.com
Registered: 09/04/2006
Posts: 7552

Re: SEO changes to how links are tagged "nofollow" in modules

Loyalis wrote:

Does the description area of the affiliate modules (amazon, ebay, etc.) have the nofollow removed? Not the actual products, just the description area. Does this mean all 'description' areas in modules that auto-generate no-follow links will now be do-follow? Cause that would be good.

Well, many people tend to put a text link to the product in the description as well, so these should remain nofollow.

How about adding nofollow to all Amazon (and other affiliate) links automatically, regardless as to which module they appear in?

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#19 05/12/2010 7:57 am

Loyalis
Captain Squid
From: Singapore
Registered: 12/31/1969
Posts: 1088

Re: SEO changes to how links are tagged "nofollow" in modules

sorry, i think i did a bad job explaining.

I wasn't referring to the *product* description area (like for amazon featured modules). I was referring to the *module* description area *above* the items or feeds.

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#20 05/12/2010 11:48 am

Ener-G
Citizen Squid Alumni

From: Montana
Registered: 11/18/2007
Posts: 1421

Re: SEO changes to how links are tagged "nofollow" in modules

Gil, you're psychic! I just got asked a question about this today in the old Module Mentor lens. How did you know I'd be needing this info!

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#21 05/12/2010 12:14 pm

JaguarJulie
Indubitably tentacular
From: Jacksonville, FL
Registered: 03/21/2006
Posts: 3745

Re: SEO changes to how links are tagged "nofollow" in modules

Gil is quite the knowledgeable, intuitive and tuned-in guy ... wink  I think he can sometimes even read my mind.  TYVM.

Last edited by JaguarJulie (05/12/2010 12:15 pm)

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#22 05/12/2010 12:25 pm

xtnshun
Full fledged kraken (500+ posts)
From: Reston, VA
Registered: 05/23/2007
Posts: 632

Re: SEO changes to how links are tagged "nofollow" in modules

Loyalis wrote:

Question:

1) Does the description area of the affiliate modules (amazon, ebay, etc.) have the nofollow removed? Not the actual products, just the description area. Does this mean all 'description' areas in modules that auto-generate no-follow links will now be do-follow? Cause that would be good.

That's what I meant with my RSS feed question above too.  I have to assume they are nofollow.

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#23 05/12/2010 2:52 pm

giltotherescue
Squid Staff / Forum Mod
From: Boulder
Registered: 10/17/2005
Posts: 2192

Re: SEO changes to how links are tagged "nofollow" in modules

Loyalis wrote:

sorry, i think i did a bad job explaining.

I wasn't referring to the *product* description area (like for amazon featured modules). I was referring to the *module* description area *above* the items or feeds.

The nofollow rules extend into the module descriptions. So links within Amazon module descriptions, for example, will be nofollow.

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#24 05/18/2010 8:36 am

Pastiche
Positively aquatic
From: Pennsylvania
Registered: 08/12/2007
Posts: 248

Re: SEO changes to how links are tagged "nofollow" in modules

JaguarJulie wrote:

Gil is quite the knowledgeable, intuitive and tuned-in guy ... wink  I think he can sometimes even read my mind.  TYVM.

Yes indeed I do think he's a mind reader at times ... that's the job of a good devo, anticipating the customer's needs/wants for next update, and Gil plus all the other Squid tech team members have that knack extraordinaire and then some.

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#25 05/18/2010 8:40 am

JaguarJulie
Indubitably tentacular
From: Jacksonville, FL
Registered: 03/21/2006
Posts: 3745

Re: SEO changes to how links are tagged "nofollow" in modules

Pastiche wrote:

JaguarJulie wrote:

Gil is quite the knowledgeable, intuitive and tuned-in guy ... wink  I think he can sometimes even read my mind.  TYVM.

Yes indeed I do think he's a mind reader at times ... that's the job of a good devo, anticipating the customer's needs/wants for next update, and Gil plus all the other Squid tech team members have that knack extraordinaire and then some.

Rah rah rah ... and then some.  wink

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